tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post6239455788678338876..comments2023-10-16T07:06:52.428-05:00Comments on Armed and Safe: Something is indeed 'scary' hereKurt '45superman' Hofmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-19002634772530508802008-08-07T22:31:00.000-05:002008-08-07T22:31:00.000-05:00It wouldn't be a stretch not after Olofson or Sava...<I>It wouldn't be a stretch not after Olofson or Savage.</I><BR/><BR/>Or <A HREF="http://armedandsafe.blogspot.com/2006/12/our-favorite-thugs-do-little-more.html" REL="nofollow">Akins</A>, or <A HREF="http://armedandsafe.blogspot.com/2006/09/atf-legacy-of-abuse-continues.html" REL="nofollow">Celata</A> . . .Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-84676677254601000042008-08-07T22:25:00.000-05:002008-08-07T22:25:00.000-05:00In response to woodward:It wouldn't be a stretch n...In response to woodward:<BR/><BR/>It wouldn't be a stretch not after Olofson or Savage.<BR/><BR/>And the fucking judges go right along with it denying people the ability to defend themselves from fascist allegations.The_Chefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05544443854634465201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-90895670522001418872008-08-07T21:44:00.000-05:002008-08-07T21:44:00.000-05:00The real fight is just beginning. Our enemies are...The real fight is just beginning. Our enemies are a ruthless bunch of SOBs who couldn’t care less about your rights. They will twist the SCOTUS’s words to suit themselves. They’ve already twisted the Constitution’s words “shall not be infringed”. DC has already redefined “machinegun”. BATFE has recently convinced a federal judge if your semi-auto firearm malfunctions you are in possession of a “machinegun”. Somebody, somewhere has already decided the possession of a machine gun by a citizen of the U.S. is verboten. <BR/><BR/>I’m wondering if BATFE will convince a federal judge that installing a rifled barrel (for home defense, to improve the accuracy for slugs) on a 12 ga. shotgun will convert the shotgun to a .58 caliber rifle? (See the Aug 08 issue of the American Rifleman) I have been advised that the “industry” says the firearm is still a shotgun. Once the BATFE decides the altered firearm is now a .58 caliber rifle will they be able to convince a federal judge they’re right?<BR/><BR/>I’d like to hear some input on this question - please.<BR/><BR/>The chef said; “My question still stands ... where is the line?”<BR/><BR/>45 superman said; “I'm definitely opposed to bore limits (.50 caliber, except for "sporting purposes")”<BR/><BR/>straightarrow said, “I tried to warn you. :)”<BR/><BR/>Yeah, straightarrow, me too.W W Woodwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13326046112820327760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-63192391398201351542008-08-07T16:41:00.000-05:002008-08-07T16:41:00.000-05:00You old stick-in-the-mud ;-).That's the best you c...You old stick-in-the-mud ;-).<BR/><BR/><BR/>That's the best you could do? Hell, my wife does better than that. And the prags get downright insultingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-5400725815927197802008-08-07T16:18:00.000-05:002008-08-07T16:18:00.000-05:00Sorry to inject some levity into the situation, bu...Sorry to inject some levity into the situation, but I'm surprised that I'm the only one to mention this yet<BR/><BR/>"Second Amendment extreme literalist,"<BR/><BR/>Would that make you a S.E.A.L. ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-85357883587451018042008-08-07T16:01:00.000-05:002008-08-07T16:01:00.000-05:00Yeah ... 20mm AntimaterialDon't leave home without...Yeah ... <BR/><BR/>20mm Antimaterial<BR/><BR/>Don't leave home without it! <BR/><BR/>:DThe_Chefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05544443854634465201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-83291578897287874522008-08-07T15:26:00.000-05:002008-08-07T15:26:00.000-05:00It's not an easy question, Chef, and it's one on w...It's not an easy question, Chef, and it's one on which it will be <I>especially</I> difficult to get a wide consensus.<BR/><BR/>I'm definitely opposed to bore limits (.50 caliber, except for "sporting purposes") and full-auto bans. I'm still working on a position with regard to explosives, rockets, etc.<BR/><BR/>For the moment, though, I'd be happy with lifting the full-auto and bore size restrictions--happiness that I don't expect to ever realize.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-72947194713443195942008-08-07T15:12:00.000-05:002008-08-07T15:12:00.000-05:00My question still stands ... where is the line?Kee...My question still stands ... where is the line?<BR/><BR/>Keep in mind I'm just tossing this out there as a conceptual problem/issue.The_Chefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05544443854634465201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-75585461296997441962008-08-07T15:03:00.000-05:002008-08-07T15:03:00.000-05:00I tried to warn you. :)Yeah--you're one the reason...<I>I tried to warn you. :)</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah--you're one the reasons my illusions were shattered. You old stick-in-the-mud ;-).Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-44942799537661418332008-08-07T14:59:00.000-05:002008-08-07T14:59:00.000-05:00"Early on, I was a probably part of the RKBA crowd..."Early on, I was a probably part of the RKBA crowd who saw Heller as a victory. I fairly quickly came down from that happy fiction..."<BR/><BR/>I tried to warn you. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-6771168023334271012008-08-07T13:34:00.000-05:002008-08-07T13:34:00.000-05:00The question is a valid one though isn't it? Shou...The question is a valid one though isn't it? <BR/><BR/>Should citizens who have a history of peaceable behavior be allowed to possess <I>any</I> weaponry? <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure if there were examples of privately held cannon during the Am. Revolution, but if there were it would provide some historical evidence that could lead to some ...intersting outcomes (citizens with RPGs or Claymores etc.).<BR/><BR/>Personally I think that citizens should be allowed small arms equivalent to those possessed by the US armed forces. Excluding things like Stingers/LAWs/RPGs.<BR/><BR/>This would mean legal ownership of an M249 and things like the RPD. The cops will freak out, but I honestly don't care.The_Chefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05544443854634465201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-75278056623721300582008-08-07T13:25:00.000-05:002008-08-07T13:25:00.000-05:00I guess we're SNBI's then since we believe the sec...I guess we're SNBI's then since we believe the second amendment means what it says. I've yet to see a version where the word "Psych!" is attached.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-75784034841492177692008-08-07T13:03:00.000-05:002008-08-07T13:03:00.000-05:00The guy is a wife-beater. Yet his guns are being a...<I>The guy is a wife-beater. Yet his guns are being arrested.</I><BR/><BR/>They had to have made him do it.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-25642889607096950892008-08-07T12:54:00.000-05:002008-08-07T12:54:00.000-05:00What is scary is that disarmament is becoming the ...What is scary is that disarmament is becoming the catch-all for a justice system in need of adjustment.<BR/><BR/>The guy is a wife-beater. Yet his guns are being arrested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-76398898142105311602008-08-07T12:40:00.000-05:002008-08-07T12:40:00.000-05:00Early on, I was a probably part of the RKBA crowd ...Early on, I was a probably part of the RKBA crowd who saw <I>Heller</I> as a victory. I fairly quickly came down from that happy fiction (although I still enjoy the hand-wringing from the statist advocates of forcible citizen disarmament). By now, I see <I>Heller</I> as a reprieve <I>at best</I>.<BR/><BR/>The danger that it will be used as justification for every restriction short of outright bans (and even allow those, of some "scary"--there's that word again--firearms).<BR/><BR/>There is real danger here, and gun rights advocates who think that all that's left now is to roll back old restrictions, without worry about new ones, are setting themselves up for a great deal of disappointment.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-34128126631301069972008-08-07T12:28:00.000-05:002008-08-07T12:28:00.000-05:00Perhaps...What is going to be interesting is that ...Perhaps...<BR/><BR/>What is going to be interesting is that the USSC didn't draw a line on regulation of firearms with regards to operational mechanics or manufacture. That is where this is going, and that is where the battle is going to be won or lost.<BR/><BR/>I think most of the RKBA crowd saw Heller as a victory, it wasn't. It was a reprieve, nothing more. So we're back to a holding action until Heller's new suit comes to the USSC or the suits in Chicago bear some fruit.<BR/><BR/>I suspect the USSC will pull a Federally recognized RKBA, but at the same time allow for some type of local/state regulation.The_Chefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05544443854634465201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-36653404618610199512008-08-07T11:56:00.000-05:002008-08-07T11:56:00.000-05:00Yeah, I don't think there can be much doubt that H...Yeah, I don't think there can be much doubt that <I>Heller</I> brought more of these sorts out of the woodwork.<BR/><BR/>Exposing them might be one of the bright spots of the decision, actually.Kurt '45superman' Hofmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14091930034162667742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34529754.post-63794185987347684982008-08-07T11:38:00.000-05:002008-08-07T11:38:00.000-05:00Damn ... they haven't met Mike V. have they?Really...Damn ... they haven't met Mike V. have they?<BR/><BR/>Really, has anyone else noticed that since Heller there has been more of this kind of righteous indignation from the gungrabbers then normal.<BR/><BR/>"Oh <I>these</I> people think that the 2nd Am. means they should be allowed to HAVE guns. This is of course preposterous."<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm just reading more and seeing more of it. But that sort of indignation seems to be more wide spread now than it was.The_Chefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05544443854634465201noreply@blogger.com